Peer Review – Evidence based Horse Training

July 31, 2019

Hi Folks,

I am extremely concerned, that 200 Years of the knowledge base that has produced the Worlds best Horse Trainers, is to be soon lost, hijacked by stealth.

Evidence based Horse Training???

There is no such thing…..why…..because Scientists are not qualified to review such things, the only evidence they have is their own and one has to have had a Life time of Thousands of Horses, to prove it and examine the subject.

Over the last 10 Years, driven by 2 Australian Scientists, there has been a concerted effort to hijack the Starting of Horses skills, as honed over hundreds of Years by Horse Men and Women who earned their stripes, like Tom Dorrence, Ray Hunt, Jim Wilton, Kel Jeffreys, Professor McGillveray and others. 

They have used the power of the PhD to Peer review Horsemen around the World, including Monty Roberts and others. They have been most successful for few will doubt anyone with Dr. before their name.

They coined the words “evidence based Horse Training” as a marketing hook and because those who Administer the Horse Industry gravitate to only those with University backed qualifications, it is becoming more and more entrenched into the Curriculum of Horse Training around the World, by stealth.

The latest back door success has been the Federal Government Skills Australia, formulating accreditation for every Trainer or worker for Horse Industry Employers in the future, will read in their Modules, that the words ‘Evidence Based has been cunningly injected into the documentation, by those intellectuals ( not Horse Trainers) in a way that borders upon nepotism, to sell the Books and Dvd’s the Scientists, completely ruling out those who really know, the Horse Trainers of the World. Words framed for this system, included these:

 

Stimulus
Operant conditioning
Learning theory
Negative re-enforcement
Shaping – changing stimulus gradually

 

For explanation. The Skills Australia work, has been driven after Years of fighting by Juliana Waugh and Her Family, after Her Daughter was put on a Bolting Racehorse off the Track and died, at T.A.F.E. N.S.W. This from Juliana, after I informed Her the following……
That I had been invited by the Federal Govt, to attend the signing off process, of the Modules of Training. I was the only Horseman there and for a full Day, I had NO input. I was invited as the “token Horseman” ……….I wrote to Juliana Waugh…..

 

Dear John
That is not good .
It is not what we ever imagined would happen  – all we ever wanted was that safety of students being trained should be included in any unit of competence. We wanted the units to simplified by breaking them into more stages to teach any horse related skills. Their trying to effectively dumb everything down with regard to teaching things like horse breaking is an unfortunate by product.

What the answer is I do not know – there are also equine dental units that equine vets are worried about too!</div

Please send in this email to the Skills feedback online as they really do need to know that their attempts to oversimplify such a complicated skill are  dangerous.
Juliana Waugh

 

Today, I received the twelfth hour updates from Skills Australia and now there is no doubt at all, that this well meaning initiative has been hijacked for monetary and misled reasons, with introductions to various subjects, reading like this:
Of course, we know that all of the red highlighted phrases and words are those of Doctor Andrew McLean and Dr. Paul McGreevy and have never been used by Australian Horse Trainers.
Of particular concern, is the use of a Federal Government initiative, to tactfully point all future employees within the Australian Horse Industry, to this…….
and of course, there is only ONE source for such material. The Websites of the Scientists. This spells the end of Google Searches of all conventional Horse Trainers of the World!!!!
The income spread, for Horse Trainers around Australia, is going to be destroyed by this initiative!!!!!!
Now, I have been watching them closely  and finally saw a degree of confidence in their own lectures, that they entered the Horse Starting Competition at Equitana, “The Way of the Horse”, held over 2 Days x 3 hours, where at the end, the Rider’s had to do a ridden exam of walk, trot, back up and so on, on their previously un-started Horses.
The Scientists had A.B.C. Quantum there, (such was the confidence) but could not catch their Horse. At the end of the first Day, they informed the Crowd that they couldn’t catch it because they don;t use round Pens, but square yards, so the following Day, for the first time at Equitana and not since, there was a square yard in their Round Yard, and also, their Round Yard had been moved, the furthermost away from the big screen, as they blamed that too.

I was there that Day and I also watched A.B.C. Quantum. I noted the veiled references to my training systems and indeed, the carefully crafted editing of the Video, to create a subliminal belief in the mind of the viewer, that Cowboys were bad dudes. Shots were taken at strategic moments of weather beaten Old Cowboys but then, reference was made to the non use of Round Pens.
An Actor had been arranged, in a dimply lit Round Pen, with a stock whip, the whites of the eyes of a fearful Horse and the Snarl on the Face of the Cowboy. I was most intrigued. So I downloaded the TV program off the Australian Broadcasting Corporation and put it into a Video Editing program. Sony Vegas in fact.

As I said, I had watched the Quantum production and it’s spin.
Part of it showed a Dog leading a Horse into a Horse Trailer, with it disappearing down a bitumen road with the Horse seriously thinking about jumping out. ( now edited out after the outrage by A.B.C. Forum Users) but exhibiting a serious risk to the welfare of the Horse and showing stress as exhibited by the psychological condition called ‘weaving’.
Back to the Round Pen Video and as I went through it, frame by frame ( as I was sure I had seen it before) suddenly ( not in the TV Show) there was the same Dog that lead the Horse into the Trailer, sitting in it’s usual front row seat, watching proceedings!!!!!!!!!……it was the Scientists Round Pen and the Video had been a set up. A set up to put conventional Horse Trainers in a bad light whilst excusing the failed attempt at show casing ‘Evidence based Horse Training ‘, at the 2008, Equitana ‘”Way of the Horse”
Now, we have an increased confidence and indeed belief, that they are in fact Horse Trainers, with the knowledge required to lecture the Public, such that can only come with at least 20 Years of Horse Training experience.
HORSEMANSHIP – the art of reading the future, with Risk Management in mind. HP

Now I wasn’t going to talk about the systems here but upon seeing the hi-jacking of the Industry Education for the future, I am forced to.
Over the last 15 Years, I have had to re-educate at least 20 Horses that have suffered at the Hands of the ‘Evidence based Training ‘   I can assure You that the systems are  ‘anti Horse Welfare’. In my State, I have personally watched as high level Dressage Horses have been ruined and left the Industry, caused by followers of the so called system. Including one of the high level supporters seen here at F.E.I.

SO WHAT IS THE ‘EVIDENCE BASED SYSTEM ‘

I do not know but I know this. It is NOT a system of staring Horses. It is a ‘Ground Manners ‘ system only, just as is Natural Horsemanship. Take a look here and whilst You are at it, identify the ‘learned helplessness and Welfare turmoil of the Horse.

ANTI HORSE WELFARE PHOTOS FROM EQUITANA

The lovely Australian Stock Horse was turned into an ‘attack machine ‘ by the predatory system put upon it. Here are some photos of the second Day, in the square yard.

THE PERFECT SNAPSHOT

Equitana provided the perfect comparison between the 3 so called systems of Horse Starting. Australian Horsemanship, Natural Horsemanship and Evidence based Horse Training. Of course, the latter 2 are NOT systems of Horse starting but ground manners only.

The results proved themselves.

NATURAL HORSEMANSHIP

and to finish AUSTRALIAN HORSEMANSHIP

The Industry had better act fast!!



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