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Hi Folks. During my Career as a Problem Horse Trainer
25,000 or so Horses have told me the following, which I would like to pass
Horses can read your mind 100%
of the time
There are no naughty horses,
only dumb Trainers
Buck Jumping Horses don't want to be.
Horses only want to try until
they are not heard.
So called 'naughty horses' are
only communicating with you in an effort to make you listen.
Horses that Buck or Rear have
only graduated to screaming through not being heard prior
Horses know if you care. They
also know if you REALLY CARE.
Horses all want to please,
until they are mistreated or confused.
Horses know if
you genuinely have their
interests at Heart
Horses know if you have a genuine respect for them
and depending upon your ranking amongst all of those
points, will the Horse decide how to score you and react accordingly
You may remember the Movie 'City
Slickers' where Billy Chrystal and the others kept asking Jack Pallance
"How did you do that?" and throughout the Movie, he kept answering them "The
'One Thing'" ......well I never thought I would get it but thankfully, I
have and I did because I 'Listened to the Horses"
These Days, my Wife and I have been taken even further
by Horses and it is truly magical. I can therefore pass onto you the
That Horses understand what we are
Horses know if we 'truly care' or
only pay lip service to the words......and now, at least once per
That Horses will Role Play their
Pain whilst we speak upon their behalf and in their support.
Your Life with Horses will be
eternally enriched if you take on board some of what I have just said. Read
my Lips Folks!!
Here is a documented
account of why it pays for you to "Listen to Your Horses" and to do
the hard Yards for your Vets.
I have some good news for you and
some bad news for me. After a year of many vets failing to diagnose my
mare’s problems, I came across your website (from googling head tossing I
think) and saw a
youtube clip that made a light go on for me. I thought -
“THAT looks like what Charlie does!”
I went back to the vets and told
them that I thought my horse had sacroiliac pain and they did what they
needed to do, nerve blocking the other joints to rule them out and then
focusing on SI. After two very long, large needles into the area we had our
I could tell you so much more about
the journey getting there and I will do if you think it would be useful for
your page. What the constant wild diagnostic goose chases we went on taught
me is – nobody knows your horse better than you. a vet cannot get the full
picture with a short or even extended consult at times as you tend to forget
ALL the details (and the details are often contradictory or confusing).
This was especially the case for my mare as she showed no lameness for a
long time. Eventually, I sent my vet an email prior to my final appointment
(I have copied it below for you and removed any references to the vets
names). By the time I wrote this email it was around 12 months of
problems…. so the detailed instructions on Charlie’s behaviour only
eventuated after much trial and tribulation.
My lesson on this is – never expect
somebody to find the answers for you (even those far more qualified than you
and you are paying a LOT of money too). You need to be thorough and keep a
diary of all the signs. Educate yourself and get involved in helping find
the answers! It’s a joint effort sometimes. If I’d kept a diary sooner we
might have had a diagnosis sooner.
Thanks again for the wonderful
educational website you have put together and thank goodness somebody took
the time to write it as I might still be scratching my head!! Unfortunately,
googling ‘bad behaviour’ does not return the diagnosis as it can be anything
from a tooth ache to a ill fitting saddle. However your site was a major
breakthrough for all concerned (especially poor Charlie).
Letter to the Vet then......
What has happened since we last met.
· Took Charlie home post
hock injection ·
Worked her for
further 10 days ·
Her behaviour got
much WORSE not better ·
Safely, I think we
can rule out that hock! BUTE · Then, we put her on bute
(10ml twice a day for 2 days, then 5ml twice a day each day after) ·
She was a
completely changed horse. After months of not even being able to canter
around the arena, we went straight back to shoulder in, traverse, counter
canter, etc. ·
Tried a lower dose
of bute (5ml a day) and behaviour returned.
OVARIES · Note, I started keeping a
diary on her behaviour and worked out she was in season every week! Pretty
much has been in season all of October ·
My coach suggested
she might be spring heating, but I wanted to check anything more potentially
sinister (such as a teratoma or something along those lines) ·
So I took her to
xxxx to scan her ovaries. Nothing showed up.
A recap of Charlie’s signs is below….
Charlie’s signs include:
· Usually ok to work in walk
and trot ·
NOT ok in canter.
This includes swinging her quarters in, throwing her head up, backing away,
going sideways. Sometimes (but not always) she disunites in canter. ·
When in pain,
cannot get left canter lead. ·
When in pain,
rushes in right canter. ·
Has always been on
Has always had
bit/contact issues [on bute, all the above signs disappeared and she was more uphill,
more together (stepping through, more collected) and much better in contact]
· Can sometimes stand in
wash bays with hind legs out wide behind her ·
The other day she
did not like her tail being washed (would raise hind legs). This is a new
thing. Perhaps the extra weight of her wet tail causing more discomfort? ·
hind quarters (compared to shoulders) ·
She pushes me off
to the right hand side while riding (I thought that was my bad habit until I
rode another horse and it did not happen) What we’ve ruled out:
· Ulcers ·
(I’m 90% sure on this) ·
For reasons above, I suspect it may be her back (and perhaps hard for xxxx
(equine chiro) to diagnose as she did not see Charlie under saddle …. which
is when it hurts her).
What I do suspect (only from reading google so feel free to roll your eyes
me being a google vet J)….
But I’ve read that sacroiliac pain results in a lot of the same behavioural
things as Charlie is showing.
What I would like to do is first get your thoughts on where to start. Then,
if I can bring her to xxxxx a few days before any procedures, then she can
settle in and not be so ‘amped’ when I ride her. I need her calm so I can
ride her properly and you can see what is going on. If I ride her for you
first, make sure she’s displaying signs as per usual, then we start
injecting (wherever you recommend) until we have our answer. I ride again,
we see if it works. What do you think? Very much open to other ideas from
Sorry for the long winded email but I think it’s the first time I’ve had a
really cohesive look at all the elements and they may or may not be
important to you - but at least they are there if you deem them significant.
Thanks so much xxxxx, look forward to your recommendations.
'LISTEN TO YOUR
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Do you know that
horses talk? They do but not necessarily with their voice. The
important stuff they try to tell us Humans is via their body
language, moods, subtle faces and most of all, evasions.
Not many people do
'listen to their horses' because I watch them all day long and every
day. Probably 100,000 by now. Sad really as they have missed out on
such an important thing in their life with horses.
What is more sad is
the detrimental affect that not 'listening to horses' has on the
poor horses. It generally always causes negative results to the
horse, gets them hurt, adds discomfort to their lives, injures them
and even can take their lives......and yet we love
them so much.
Of course it is not
our fault as no education system teaches such things and such
systems are therefore responsible for most of what I have been
explaining. So that is why Horsemen sometimes attempt to pass on
some knowledge of such things before they go to the 'big Round Pen
in the Sky', perhaps as a legacy to horses.
So rather than go on
and get emotional, I will simply relate some instances of horses
attempting to communicate to owners who haven't listened and some
that do. You can then have a think about this article and take what
you like out of it. If one horse has an improved life from it, I am
a happy Man:
There was a
Standard Bred horse being ridden around on an adjoining
property. Hooning by a Man in a 'Slim Dusty Hat' For weeks. The
horse was uneasy about being saddled. Some time later I had to
take the horse to the abattoirs. A piece of steel had cut
through between two vertebrae.
suddenly don't want to go into a float are often telling you
that the driver stinks.
A perfect rugging
horse starts walking off at rugging time. It is often telling
you that it is too hot in that selection of rugs.
A horse shows
irritation about being rugged. The type of rug is causing static
electricity throughout the day and night.
A young horse
here recently, followed me up and down the fence a lot. It was
telling me it wanted to be broken in and have fun like the
others on the place.
The horse that
kicks up and bounces on the back legs during flying changes or
has trouble doing walk pirouettes or canter pirouettes is
telling you it has stifle problems.
A horse that
objects violently to having it's head put down and round and
starts swishing the tail aggressively can be telling you that it
has sacroiliac problems
The horse that
tilts it's head whilst being ridden or lunged is often telling
you it has teeth problems and even if they were done recently
like one by a Vet here last week, that the job was appalling.
A horse that
can't balance on the back legs for shoeing or snatches the front
legs can have anything from arthritis to rear and problems,
pulled shoulder muscles and the like.
A horse here
recently would not enter the arena and changed personality
drastically. Cause? Sacroiliac problems.
A horse starts
leaving it's hay all of a sudden. Mice, chooks in haystack of
My own horse, got
poisoned in his water trough and nearly died, killing the
kangaroos and the pigeons. Would not drink from a trough again.
Men? Guess why?
Mrs. HP jumps off
a problem horse because she dropped her whip. The horse scooted
sideways violently, telling her that the previous owner used to
get off to bash him.
The so called
Breaker opens his mouth like he is at the Dentist when first
presented with a bit. He tells us that he has worn a bridle
plenty and the owner is a liar.
horse goes into a frame when lunged. It tells us that it has
been lunged with side reins on and plenty.
and the list could go
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